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	<title>Comments on: The Language of God</title>
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		<title>By: Admiral Justin</title>
		<link>http://firasd.org/weblog/2006/09/08/the-language-of-god/comment-page-1#comment-11285</link>
		<dc:creator>Admiral Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 06:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no reason that science precludes the concept of &#039;God.&#039;

I personally favor the multi-verse membrane theory on the initiation of the big bang.  A couple of membranes in the multi-verse medium collided, and the perturbations in the membranes caused the irregular clumps of matter, such as stars and things, to form.

Does this have anything to do with &#039;God.&#039;  Does it seek to prove or disprove the existence of &#039;God?&#039;

No.  &#039;God&#039; is supposed to be all powerful, all knowing, and all that crap, yet people keep limiting the power of &#039;God.&#039;   

Why could &#039;God&#039; not have caused the big bang?  Why could &#039;God&#039; not have created the multi-verse membranes, and whatever may be on a scale we can&#039;t begin to comprehend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no reason that science precludes the concept of &#8216;God.&#8217;</p>
<p>I personally favor the multi-verse membrane theory on the initiation of the big bang.  A couple of membranes in the multi-verse medium collided, and the perturbations in the membranes caused the irregular clumps of matter, such as stars and things, to form.</p>
<p>Does this have anything to do with &#8216;God.&#8217;  Does it seek to prove or disprove the existence of &#8216;God?&#8217;</p>
<p>No.  &#8216;God&#8217; is supposed to be all powerful, all knowing, and all that crap, yet people keep limiting the power of &#8216;God.&#8217;   </p>
<p>Why could &#8216;God&#8217; not have caused the big bang?  Why could &#8216;God&#8217; not have created the multi-verse membranes, and whatever may be on a scale we can&#8217;t begin to comprehend.</p>
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		<title>By: StoneCypher</title>
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		<dc:creator>StoneCypher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 06:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t believe that secularists (the word you&#039;re looking for when you say atheists) actually do say that the big bang created existence.  Physics certainly doesn&#039;t; many physicists do not believe in the big bang at all anymore, and of those who do, the prevailing trend is to see the big bang as a collision between topological M-branes which just happened to wipe out what was there previously.

If a bomb goes off in a room, and then we come in afterwards, it&#039;s hard to tell what was there previously.  Would it be appropriate to say what was there previously if we don&#039;t know?  No.  It would be appropriate to say &quot;we don&#039;t know what was here before the blast, and do not yet have a way to tell.&quot;  That is in essence what we do for the big bang; those who favor the cyclic state theory suggest that the big bang follows a big crunch, those who follow brane theory and other upshots of superstring theory suggest that it was just an enormous catastrophe, and a great number of people suggest that there was in fact no big bang in the first place, and that we&#039;re misinterpreting the effect of energy lensing on background microwave radiation as the universe expanding.

The important point is that no physicist claims to even know what happened *at* the big bang, let alone before it.  It&#039;s not that we&#039;re saying there was nothing before it, and I don&#039;t know anyone who believes there was nothing before it.  We just haven&#039;t figured out any way to tell what was there previously yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe that secularists (the word you&#8217;re looking for when you say atheists) actually do say that the big bang created existence.  Physics certainly doesn&#8217;t; many physicists do not believe in the big bang at all anymore, and of those who do, the prevailing trend is to see the big bang as a collision between topological M-branes which just happened to wipe out what was there previously.</p>
<p>If a bomb goes off in a room, and then we come in afterwards, it&#8217;s hard to tell what was there previously.  Would it be appropriate to say what was there previously if we don&#8217;t know?  No.  It would be appropriate to say &#8220;we don&#8217;t know what was here before the blast, and do not yet have a way to tell.&#8221;  That is in essence what we do for the big bang; those who favor the cyclic state theory suggest that the big bang follows a big crunch, those who follow brane theory and other upshots of superstring theory suggest that it was just an enormous catastrophe, and a great number of people suggest that there was in fact no big bang in the first place, and that we&#8217;re misinterpreting the effect of energy lensing on background microwave radiation as the universe expanding.</p>
<p>The important point is that no physicist claims to even know what happened *at* the big bang, let alone before it.  It&#8217;s not that we&#8217;re saying there was nothing before it, and I don&#8217;t know anyone who believes there was nothing before it.  We just haven&#8217;t figured out any way to tell what was there previously yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Excluded Middle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Excluded Middle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t make any point, just attack both sides, and poorly.

It is contrary to reason to think anything existed before the beginning of the universe. Even the string theorists want there to be an infinite chain of universes stretching back for eternity and into the future for eternity. There are two problems with this. First, infinity is simply unreal. Sooner or later you have to accept that there had to be a beginning and it had to be extremely simple, not a complex God. Second, there isn&#039;t any evidence to indicate that another universe or anything at all &quot;preceded&quot; this universe because time is an internal property of this universe. It is only wishful thinking.

As for the problem of the universe needing a cause, it is a non-sequitur circular argument. It is turtles upon turtles. If the universe needed a cause, why is God exempt from this need? If God can be exempt from the need for a cause there is no reason why the universe should not be exempt. Otherwise God needed a cause, and the cause of God needed a cause, and it is turtles standing on the backs of turtles all the way back into eternity.

In the interest of simplicity, without substantial evidence to the contrary, the begining of this universe was simple enough, and there is no reason to assert that there was anything before it other than wishful thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t make any point, just attack both sides, and poorly.</p>
<p>It is contrary to reason to think anything existed before the beginning of the universe. Even the string theorists want there to be an infinite chain of universes stretching back for eternity and into the future for eternity. There are two problems with this. First, infinity is simply unreal. Sooner or later you have to accept that there had to be a beginning and it had to be extremely simple, not a complex God. Second, there isn&#8217;t any evidence to indicate that another universe or anything at all &#8220;preceded&#8221; this universe because time is an internal property of this universe. It is only wishful thinking.</p>
<p>As for the problem of the universe needing a cause, it is a non-sequitur circular argument. It is turtles upon turtles. If the universe needed a cause, why is God exempt from this need? If God can be exempt from the need for a cause there is no reason why the universe should not be exempt. Otherwise God needed a cause, and the cause of God needed a cause, and it is turtles standing on the backs of turtles all the way back into eternity.</p>
<p>In the interest of simplicity, without substantial evidence to the contrary, the begining of this universe was simple enough, and there is no reason to assert that there was anything before it other than wishful thinking.</p>
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